Friday, April 24, 2020

Initial reactions to first round picks

One thing that I really like to do is consider how much a player helps a team right away, the quality of the player, and the risk factor. The risk factor is how likely a player is to be an absolute bust versus a guy that seems almost guaranteed to be a long time contributor. To step outside the obvious players the example I like to use would be that AJ Hawk was a contributor to the Packers for a long time so he ends up being a 32 as low risk despite being likely a C graded player in hindsight. Julius Peppers would be a 1 as a super risky player despite being an A+ graded player. Without further ado, here are my way too early ratings:

Team
First
Last
Grade
Comments
Risk Rank
1. Cincinnati
Joe
Burrow
A+
The pick they needed to make here and while there is definitely risk here, it is tough to argue against him being the best QB in this draft because Tua's injury history. A relatively safe pick who I would be stunned if he busts so lower risk rank but some risk.
20
2. Washington
Chase
Young
A
I am not totally sold on Young because he is not a finished product yet but the upside is insane. I think of this as similar to Julius Peppers or Jason Pierre Paul when they came out of college. So risk but reward is great.
12
3. Detroit
Jeff
Okudah
B -
Okudah probably does not deserve this slot. He could be good but he is not even my favorite CB in this draft. He will be good but never great.
13
4. NY Giants
Andrew
Thomas
B
Initial reaction was that this was a good pick but I pegged Wirfs as a better pick here. Still he is a relatively safe pick.
28
5. Miami
Tua
Tagovailoa
A+
Miami and Tua are a near perfect fit. Assuming Tua stays healthy, this will turn out to be an absolute steal. How many players have all good tape? However, the injury history is extensive so there is a lot of risk there.
10
6. LA Chargers
Justin
Herbert
B+
Herbert is a bit risky as you have to question if he was not as successful in college because of his lack of supporting cast or if he is all talent but cannot put it together. On the plus side, he looked good at the Senior Bowl with a better support cast so that works in his favor.
4
7. Carolina
Derrick
Brown
B
I like Brown a lot but this is sort of a broccoli type of pick. He will be a very good DT but how much does a DT change your defense? Very low risk.
31
8. Arizona
Isaiah
Simmons
A+
There is no reason for Simmons to have fallen this far. We will look back at this pick and wonder how teams passed up on him. He is a player unlike any other we have seen. He will be a stud.
32
9. Jacksonville
CJ
Henderson
B+
Henderson's lack of physicality is a little concerning but his coverage skills are so good that this should be a solid pick. This is a little higher than expected for him but it is still a good pick.
21
10. Cleveland
Jedrick
Wills, Jr.
B
Wills should be a solid player in the NFL but Wirfs was the better pick so I knocked the Browns down a little.
23
11. NY Jets
Mekhi
Becton
C+
The Jets took too much of a risk here. Becton has a lot of talent and mauls a lot of defenders but he is an unfinished product and needs to hone technique because he is not going to be able to outpower NFL defenders like he did in college.
1
12. Las Vegas
Henry
Ruggs III
B+
I really like Ruggs a lot and he fits the Raiders well. But he was not the top WR in this draft and his lack of production in college does leave a bit of concern. I would personally bet that his best days are ahead of him.
7
13. Tampa Bay (From San Fran)
Tristan
Wirfs
A
Tampa Bay stole this one and will have a very good LT right away and for the next decade or so. Instantly upgrades an area of need.
30
14. San Fransisco (From Tampa Bay)
Javon
Kinlaw
B
In theory, the 49ers knocked this one out of the park. They trade away a top DT to save cash long-term and get a potentially top notch DT to replace him. I think there is some risk involved with Kinlaw though. Still they did what they needed to do.
19
15. Denver
Jerry
Jeudy
B
I probably like this pick less than most people. The fit is nice and Jeudy is dynamic but I feel like a lot of his yardage is short routes and schemes. I think there is much more risk factor here than many others think.
11
16. Atlanta
A.J.
Terrell
B -
The position makes perfect sense here but the player has a few holes in his game that I think are concerning. Not bad but not great. He should be solid though.
15
17. Dallas
CeeDee
Lamb
A+
Mike McCarthy landed the top WR in this draft and now has likely the top WR core in the NFL. He should be thanking his stars that this is his round 2 as a head coach.
29
18. Miami f/PIT
Austin
Jackson
C+
Jackson is not likely to be a top level OT in the NFL. He is more of a steady presence than anything else but even at that, he has not shown that he can be special. Strange pick.
9
19. Las Vegas f/CHI
Damon
Arnette
D
History repeated itself here. But at least when they drafted Conley he was considered a high 2nd rounder. This was the strangest pick in the first round.
5
20. Jacksonville f/LAR
K'Lavon
Chaisson
B-
Chaisson is all potential and has not put it all together yet even with freakish athleticism. I know they are going to lose Ngakoue but this really was not the best way to help their team at this point in time.
2
21. Philadelphia
Jalen
Reagor
B
Not a bad pick for the Eagles and they need a young deep threat. But he is not likely to be a dominant force. Solid pick.
18
22. Minnesota f/BUF
Justin
Jefferson
B
The Vikings did what they needed to do here and grabbed one of the top WR left on the board. The one thing is that the Vikings just have a terrible historic record with WRs in the first round so that is in the back of my mind. Still, he is a steady enough presence that the risk is low.
26
23. Chargers (From New England)
Kenneth
Murray
B-
Murray is a good player but it was odd to me that the Chargers traded back into the first round for a linebacker. Was this really a need at this point?
27
24. New Orleans
Cesar
Ruiz
B-
If this was a team that had an explicit need at interior line then this grade is higher but the Saints seemed to have larger needs at this point. But Ruiz is going to have a good career.
25
25. San Fransisco (From Minnesota)
Brandon
Aiyuk
B
I was really surprised that this was the route that the 49ers went here. The position makes sense but I would have thought that they would go for a complimentary player to Samuel. With that being said, Aiyuk has some pretty impressive skills so it adds needed talent. Because he is not the most refined player, there is a bit higher risk.
14
26. Green Bay Packers (From Miami)
Jordan
Love
D+
It is very hard to draft a player that could potentially cause a rift like this pick did. If Rodgers was hinting at retirement or this is two years down the road, I get it. But trading up for a raw QB, who is not even close to Mahomes, is a real head scratcher. This neither helps Aaron Rodgers and in fact just ticks him off. Now, with that being said, if this motivates Rodgers and builds on the chip on his shoulder then okay. If Aaron Rodgers comes out this season and has a record breaking season, I will give them credit for this and it is worth wasting a first round pick. Why not trade down or trade it for a future pick? If you are concerned with getting an heir apparent, why not build up some future draft capital? Just a head scratcher.
3
27. Seattle
Jordyn
Brooks
C
The Seahawks continue to make head scratching 1st round picks. Brooks has a lot of raw talent but he has not put it all together yet. It was not even really an area of need. Just surprising to me and I wonder what they are going for here.
8
28. Baltimore
Patrick
Queen
B
Another pick that I think I probably like less than others. Queen is a fine player and could turn out to be a new style of linebacker. But I am just not totally sold on him. We are not talking Ray Lewis here.
17
29. Tennessee
Isaiah
Wilson
B-
Wilson is a fine player and the expectations of him playing right tackle is logical. However, its tough to say if he really is an Offensive Tackle in the NFL or if he stays at guard. I think he will play for a while but I am not sure that he was a first round talent.
22
30. Miami (From Green Bay)
Noah
Igbinoghene
B-
A very good athlete and a decent overall cornerback but the Dolphins have significantly more needs than bringing in a 3rd CB. There are other CBs I liked signficantly more.
16
31. Minesota (From San Fransisco)
Jeff
Gladney
B-
Similar to the last pick in that there were corners that I like more but Gladney is the safest corner that the Vikings have drafted in the first round in quite a while.
24
32. Kansas City
Clyde
Edwards-Helaire
C+
I cannot say that I love this pick but it is decent. It just felt a little odd to take him here. He is more of a role-player and certainly not the best RB in this draft; maybe 3rd or 4th? Higher risk because he may be no better than Eric Bienemy was as player (quite ironically as that is the best comparison I could think of)
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Sunday, April 19, 2020

Ramping up!!! The Seventh Annual Andre and Chris Mock Draft!!!


Andre and Chris Draft 2020 – Seventh Annual 

Rules: As in the past Chris and Andre will alternate pick unless Andre has the Bears pick or Chris has the Packers pick, in which case we would hand the choice over to the other person.

Our philosophy in this process was that we were acting as the General Manager for each team. What that also meant was that we were taking the tendencies of certain coaches into consideration. While we were open to trades, we never made one, which we realize will never happen. Without further ado, here is the hard labor of 9 hours of chatting and GMing:

Round 1 – Andre has odds and has Chris evens unless noted by:
#Chris made the pick
+Andre made the pick

Trades:

Round 1
Team
First
Last
Position
1.       Cincinnati
Joe Burrow
LSU
QB
2.       Washington
Chase Young
Ohio St.
EDGE
3.       Detroit
Isaiah Simmons
Clemson
LB
4.       NY Giants
Jedrick Wills Jr.
Alabama
OL
5.       Miami
Tua Tagovailoa
Alabama
QB
6.       LA Chargers
Justin Herbert
Oregon
QB
7.       Carolina
Derrick Brown
Auburn
DL
8.       Arizona
Andrew Thomas
Georgia
OL
9.       Jacksonville
Jeff Okudah
Ohio St.
CB
10.   Cleveland
Javon Kinlaw
South Carolina
DL
11.   NY Jets
CeeDee Lamb
Oklahoma
WR
12.   Las Vegas
Henry Ruggs III
Alabama
WR
13.   San Francisco f/IND
CJ Henderson
Florida
CB
14.   Tampa Bay
Tristan Wirfs
Iowa
OL
15.   Denver
Jerry Jeudy
Alabama
WR
16.   Atlanta
Neville Gallimore
Oklahoma
DL
17.   Dallas
Bryce Hall
Virginia
CB
18.   Miami f/PIT
Kenneth Murray
Oklahoma
LB
19.   Las Vegas f/CHI
Mekhi Becton
Louisville
OL
20.   Jacksonville f/LAR
Tee Higgins
Clemson
WR
21.   Philadelphia
Patrick Queen
LSU
LB
22.   Minnesota f/BUF
Xavier McKinney
Alabama
S
23.   New England
K'Lavon Chaisson
LSU
EDGE
24.   New Orleans
A.J. Epenesa
Iowa
EDGE
25.   Minnesota
Jalen Reagor
TCU
WR
26.   Miami f/HOU
Yetur Gross-Matos
Penn St.
EDGE
27.   Seattle
Curtis Weaver
Boise St.
EDGE
28.   Baltimore
Grant Delpit
LSU
S
29.   Tennessee
Josh Jones
Houston
OL
30.   Green Bay+
Akeem Davis-Gaither
App. St.
LB
31.   San Francisco#
Denzel Mims
Baylor
WR
32.   Kansas City
D'Andre Swift
Georgia
RB





Round 2 – Chris has odds and Andre has evens unless noted by:
#Chris made the pick
+Andre made the pick

Round 2
33.   Cincinnati
Austin Jackson
USC
OL
34.   Indianapolis f/WAS
Justin Jefferson
LSU
WR
35.   Detroit
Kristian Fulton
LSU
CB
36.   NY Giants
Brandon Aiyuk
Arizona St.
WR
37.   LA Chargers
Jonathan Taylor
Wisconsin
RB
38.   Carolina
Cameron Dantzler
Miss. State
CB
39.   Miami
Ashtyn Davis
California
S
40.   Houston f/ARI
Michael Pittman Jr.
USC
WR
41.   Cleveland
Antoine Winfield Jr.
Minnesota
S
42.   Jacksonville
Ezra Cleveland
Boise St.
OL
43.   Chicago f/LV
Laviska Shenault Jr.
Colorado
WR
44.   Indianapolis
Jordan Love
Utah St.
QB
45.   Tampa Bay
Trevon Diggs
Alabama
CB
46.   Denver
A.J. Terrell
Clemson
CB
47.   Atlanta
Noah Igbinoghene
Auburn
CB
48.   NY Jets
Isaiah Wilson
Georgia
OL
49.   Pittsburgh
Jordyn Brooks
Texas Tech
LB
50.   Chicago
Kyle Dugger
Lenoir-Rhyne
S
51.   Dallas
Ross Blacklock
TCU
DL
52.   LA Rams
Cesar Ruiz
Michigan
OL
53.   Philadelphia
Lloyd Cushenberry III
LSU
OL
54.   Buffalo
Tyler Biadasz
Wisconsin
OL
55.   Baltimore f/NE via ATL
Chase Claypool
Notre Dame
WR
56.   Miami f/NO
Zack Moss
Utah
RB
57.   LA Rams f/HOU
KJ Hamler
Penn St.
WR
58.   Minnesota
Jaylon Johnson
Utah
CB
59.   Seattle
Josh Uche
Michigan
EDGE
60.   Baltimore
Zack Baun
Wisconsin
LB
61.   Tennessee
Cole Kmet
Notre Dame
TE
62.   Green Bay
Jordan Elliott
Missouri
DL
63.   Kansas City f/SF
Jeff Gladney
TCU
CB
64.   Seattle f/KC
Jack Driscoll
Auburn
OL

Round 3 – Andre has odds and Chris has evens unless noted by:
#Chris made the pick
+Andre made the pick


Round 3
65.   Cincinnati
Troy Dye
Oregon
LB
66.   Washington
Brycen Hopkins
Purdue
TE
67.   Detroit
Ben Bredeson
Michigan
OL
68.   NY Jets f/NYG
Jonah Jackson
Ohio St.
OL
69.   Carolina
Prince Tega Wanogho
Auburn
OL
70.   Miami
Lucas Niang
TCU
OL
71.   LA Chargers
Leki Fotu
Utah
DL
72.   Arizona
Raekwon Davis
Alabama
DL
73.   Jacksonville
Terrell Burgess
Utah
S
74.   Cleveland
Julian Okwara
Notre Dame
EDGE
75.   Indianapolis
Tyler Johnson
Minnesota
WR
76.   Tampa Bay
J.K. Dobbins
Ohio St.
RB
77.   Denver
Matt Peart
Connecticut
OL
78.   Atlanta
Damon Arnette
Ohio St.
CB
79.   NY Jets
Essang Bassey
Wake Forest
CB
80.   Las Vegas
Justin Madubuike
Texas A&M
DL
81.   Las Vegas f/CHI
Lamar Jackson
Nebraska
CB
82.   Dallas
Thaddeus Moss
LSU
TE
83.   Denver f/PIT
Netane Muti
Fresno St.
OL
84.   LA Rams
Bradlee Anae
Utah
EDGE
85.   Detroit f/PHI
Jake Fromm
Georgia
QB
86.   Buffalo
Terrell Lewis
Alabama
EDGE
87.   New England
Adam Trautman
Dayton
TE
88.   New Orleans
Antonio Gibson
Memphis
WR
89.   Minnesota
Alex Highsmith
Charlotte
EDGE
90.   Houston
Marlon Davidson
Auburn
DL
91.   Las Vegas f/SEA via HOU
Clyde Edwards-Helaire
LSU
RB
92.   Baltimore
Bryan Edwards
South Carolina
WR
93.   Tennessee
Dane Jackson
Pittsburgh
CB
94.   Green Bay+
Ben Bartch
St. John's (MN)
OL
95.   Denver f/SF
Davon Hamilton
Ohio St.
DL
96.   Kansas City
Darrell Taylor
Tennessee
EDGE
97.   Cleveland f/HOU*
Cam Brown
Penn St.
LB
98.   New England*
Jalen Hurts
Oklahoma
QB
99.   NY Giants*
Javaris Davis
Auburn
CB
100.     New England*
Antonio Gandy-Golden
Liberty
WR
101.     Seattle*
Amik Robertson
Louisiana Tech
CB
102.     Pittsburgh*
Devin Duvernay
Texas
WR
103.     Philadelphia*
Jacob Eason
Washington
QB
104.     LA Rams*
Jabari Zuniga
Florida
EDGE
105.     Minnesota*
Robert Hunt
Louisiana
OL
106.     Baltimore*
Anfernee Jennings
Alabama
EDGE


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